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Frédéric Wang's Blog, about mathematics and computer science / Blog de Frédéric Wang, sur les mathématiques et l'informatique.enSat, 29 Aug 2015 20:01:50 +0200http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rssDotclearMathML Accessibility (part II) - Neil Soiffer
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/08/15/MathML-Accessibility-%28part-II%29#c389
urn:md5:ebfcc70f895a74241d48de9e02a82b9eWed, 19 Aug 2015 21:16:50 +0200Neil Soiffer<p>I just checked with NVDA 2015.2 and in fact it passes along the document language to MathPlayer... at least for the French version of the polygon page when you set NVDA's voice setting to a french voice (I used the MS Speech Platform voice). So at least in the case where you are reading a French page with a French voice, it is just one setting.</p>
<p>I also tried the English page. The French voice reads the English text (with a French accent), and the math is read in that manner also (i.e., it is English speech for the math). That seems sensible to me. I can imagine that someone might want to hear English text but a native language version of the math, but that would seem to be the exceptional case to me.</p>MathML Accessibility (part II) - fredw
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/08/15/MathML-Accessibility-%28part-II%29#c388
urn:md5:310fc42afc9a43854b99fd54d8a84332Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:03:44 +0200fredw<p>Thanks Neil. I know that MathPlayer works in French (I tried with IE in the past) but my point was that having two separate menus are somewhat confusing and inconvenient. In my opinion, NVDA's language menu should override MathPlayer's language when the former is passing the math to the latter.</p><p>IIUC, it's possible that I used an English document and that NVDA told MathPlayer to use that language (despite the fact that NVDA was reading text in French). I'll try again later.</p>MathML Accessibility (part II) - Neil Soiffer
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/08/15/MathML-Accessibility-%28part-II%29#c387
urn:md5:9a223a393609b2e4674ffcbc74ce5c40Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:32:03 +0200Neil Soiffer<p>It's great to see math accessibility working on all major platforms. Great work!</p>
<p>NVDA+MathPlayer does work in French -- I demoed at a conference in Paris at the start of June.</p>
<p>There are at most two places you need to set the language:<br />
1. NVDA's Voice Settings menu<br />
2. MathPlayer's Settings menu</p>
<p>I think recent versions of NVDA will automatically tell MathPlayer to use the document's language, but I might be confused about that. The Window's TTS control panel setting is not used by NVDA.</p>
<p>Note: NVDA uses the eSpeak voices. They are very mechanical and screen reader users who listen at high rates like that. For people not used to listening to such voices, it sounds terrible. If you set NVDA (via its Speech Synthesizer menu) to use the Microsoft Platform Voice (Windows 8 and later), it will sound much better. I have both the English and French voices; I can sort of understand the French when spoken with the MS voice, but the eSpeak French voice is unintelligible to me.</p>MathML Accessibility (part II) - aleth
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/08/15/MathML-Accessibility-%28part-II%29#c385
urn:md5:d736a25eb960c21625da54486bfb629aSun, 16 Aug 2015 12:07:38 +0200aleth<p>Great work!</p>[ping] Decomposition of 2D-transform matrices - Anonymous blog
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2013/12/01/Decomposition-of-2D-transform-matrices#c384
urn:md5:1a35e6345401d65b1f88d5a432f96bfaFri, 03 Jul 2015 05:31:07 +0200Anonymous blog<p><a href="http://dexpage.com/is-there-js-plugin-convert-the-matrix-parameter-to-css3-transform-property/">Is there js plugin convert the matrix parameter to css3</a></p>
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<p>(…)</p>MathML Accessibility - fredw
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/05/06/MathML-Accessibility#c383
urn:md5:b49e9fb6097c1ea9b0d96cae975939ceSun, 10 May 2015 09:46:55 +0200fredw<p>Thanks for the link Julie. Note that I'm really focusing on native MathML support in browsers and assitive technologies here. That is: MathML is part of HTML so one should just be able to include it in Web pages and Web browser will just render it in an appropriate way to the users. MathML Cloud seems to be yet another project saying "native MathML is not ready yet, let's use some fallback to display it and make it accessible". I wish such projects praise the work of Gecko/WebKit MathML developers and recommend to use a fallback <strong>only</strong> for browsers without MathML support (see <a href="https://github.com/fred-wang/mathml-warning.js" rel="nofollow">MathML warning</a> that I use on my blog or how it is done on <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/" rel="nofollow">MDN</a>).</p>MathML Accessibility - Julie Noblitt
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/05/06/MathML-Accessibility#c381
urn:md5:af49b634524a2231e48985b8fc5619b3Sat, 09 May 2015 01:39:47 +0200Julie Noblitt<p>Fantastic table, Frederic -- will share this. At Benetech we are going to be releasing a tool for content creators to generate accessible Math, called MathML Cloud -- see the beta here: <a href="https://mathmlcloud.org/" title="https://mathmlcloud.org/" rel="nofollow">https://mathmlcloud.org/</a> There is an API but you quickly see how it works using the interface.</p>MathML Accessibility - fredw
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/05/06/MathML-Accessibility#c380
urn:md5:dc4dee9019eaa649dbe66812a45f4ff5Fri, 08 May 2015 23:12:24 +0200fredw<p>@Brenno: My blog post was really focusing on Gecko browsers which have native MathML support and for which NVDA can now read the MathML (by calling MathPlayer)... I can not comment for Microsoft, but IIUC the technology currently used by MathPlayer to add MathML support in IE is likely to be dropped in the future. MathML is "not currently planned" on status.modern.ie but Murray Sargent stated in a blog post that Microsoft Word's math layout engine could be reused. See</p>
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<li><a href="https://status.modern.ie/mathml?term=mathml" rel="nofollow">https://status.modern.ie/mathml?term=mathml</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/257854-microsoft-edge-developer/suggestions/6508572-mathml" rel="nofollow">https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/257854-microsoft-edge-developer/suggestions/6508572-mathml</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/archive/2014/04/27/opentype-math-tables.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/archive/2014/04/27/opentype-math-tables.aspx</a></li>
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<p> </p>MathML Accessibility - Brenno
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2015/05/06/MathML-Accessibility#c379
urn:md5:3b2d81dcfe4635d682d3579e1b99e03dFri, 08 May 2015 23:01:23 +0200Brenno<p>Ah so MathPlayer runs in IE11 with Enterprise Mode, so far so good. But did Microsoft make any announcements concerning Spartan (Microsoft Edge) yet? I guess Microsoft will for some time support both Spartan and IE but there will be a time when IE support will end (maybe in 10 years), I wonder whether we will see native MathML from their side by then.</p>A quick note for Mozillians regarding MathML on Wikipedia - fredw
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2014/10/24/A-quick-note-for-Mozillians-regarding-MathML-on-Wikipedia#c367
urn:md5:971e01329f5a8f20506a1262bf8f9f4dWed, 29 Oct 2014 20:18:08 +0100fredw<p>Murray Sargent has published a <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/archive/2014/04/27/opentype-math-tables.aspx" rel="nofollow">blog post</a> where he explains the history of the math rendering in Word. His conclusion seems to suggest that enabling MathML in IE would be relatively easy technically, but we need to convince the IE team.</p>